Sickness v1.5

Yesterday night i got sick with a massive headache and stomache ache. It didn't change my day routine at all though. Without being sick i would have watched tv and played on the computer the exact same way i did today anyway. I worked on TLN further and got a few things done. I still have a lot of things to change, but i still could wrap it up a bit. The second major saw influence got into shape *cough*brain surgery*cough*. how i executed one room isn't perfect yet, but i havn't finished drawing stuff there, yet, so i leave it like this till it's drawn.

Saw III traps reused in Saw VII

obvious Saw 7 spoilers here!

So Saw III featured in a teaser poster art thing, the original script and what they actually did Troy in three different way to die. I remember a poster with Troy's teeth pulled out. Actually there were exactly 3 teeth hanging on another poster and what did we see in Saw VII? Exactly, someone pulling out his teeth. There is another conceptual art picture with Troy hanging down on hooks (the one i posted belongs to "The Traps of Saw III"). He had to rescue himself from those hooks, but it was changed, because it would have been impossible for him to rescue himself. Bobby Dagen's trap he wrote about has also hooks, the last trap he has to go though is kind of similar. And the last thing is the actual Troy-trap, which was similar used in the Car trap, where one victim i can't remember the name of right now is torn apart with chains in his body by the car driving off and ripping the chains out.

Saw VII Reviews

WITHOUT MAJOR SPOILERS AKA THINGS YOU SAW IN TRAILERS BEFORE ARE MENTIONED:
Ok all in all it's a lot different then what i heard i heard spoilers that were not really true at all. I was pretty afraid of the movie, but it turned out great for several reasons i cannot state without giving things away. The public trap was in fact not that great and it is kinda sad that there were no flashbacks of the other survivors, which was kinda sad. John was not really in the movie, he could have made the movie perfect if there were more flashbacks of him, but sadly there wasn't. The traps were awesome, but felt rushed kinda and yeah they were huge, but i think it was alright. Bobby's storyline felt kinda awkward, because there were no real flashbacks explaining stuff and the other victims felt random, but i have to admit i felt sorry for Bobby, that was made great i liked his character a lot and while watching the traps my heart was bumping and i hoped for some victims to survive and when a person died or survived it always got me. I heard a lot of spoilers pointing out the bad things and i had such a low expectation that it didnt seem bad at all. The cops were all over the place and it felt kinda strange them running around like lemmings, but still it was good. Although i have to admit its a saw film so after seeing the movie 5 or 10 times my views on it can change. If they make a directors cut with more John stuff and longer traps this movie will be a lot better. But even without it is not really bad either. Another thing is there was not really a twist, but the ending still was shocking i think.

SPOILER REVIEW:
Ok if you have not seen the movie, please do not read further unless you are not a saw fan anyways and just read this for fun, but reading this will ruin a lot of movie experience.

Ok the movie starts with Dr.G crawling out the bathroom, that scene was kinda cool. The public trap wasn't really good, but not that bad either, like a standard opening trap it felt like. In my crappy version the gore looked stupid though. Jill's trap... i'm still angry about it, one thing that was spoiled for me was that it was her nightmare and it made me angry before watching the movie, because a trap feels so random, it was only there for the sake of gore and for the sake of showing it. While watching the movie it grew on me though, because it made clear why Jill was such a crybaby in the movie. Her character arc made a 180 degree turn from that point. In Saw V mysterious to Saw VI becomming kickass to Saw VII being the total victim. On the other side Hoffman showed us what kickass character he is. The whole thing with him getting to Jill Tuck was epic and his way of killing her was great too. Some people think this movie is not a real saw movie because the trap seemed so random and so many people died, just for Hoffman to get what he wants, but i think that is exactly what Saw VI lead us to. It would have been cooler if Hoffman got shot by the police on the way outside the station, because it seemed knda dumb that no police man thought about going to that police station and looking whats wrong. Instead showing the survivors get him was great though. They made clear that all the survivors learned from the traps and in seeing Hoffman as just a murderer they REALLY completed John's legacy. The survivors get Hoffman and make him suffer for what he has done. It was not only Gordon. Gordon is not an apprentice either, they will most likely not test anyone, they are happy they got the opportunity to change there life, so did Gordon, and locking Hoffman up ends the series. BTW bringing the bathroom back was the best thing in the whole film. I wanted it for so many years now it was great to see Dr. Gordon's rotted foot. I think seeing the bathroom would have been kinda twist like for me if it wasnt spoiled ONE freaking day before i finally saw it :( i really hope you guys didn't got the bathroom spoiled. Dr.G helping wasnt a big spoiler though and i was happy i got it spoiled, cause i was so afraid they make him an apprentice, but in the end it seemed more like a little helper for me and more of a symbol for the survivor group. The traps in all were great i will rate them here now:
Public Trap: 4/10. The idea wasn't too bad and it kinda shows the concept of Saw VII, which is publicity in a way.
Jill's Trap: 6/10 (9/10 if it was real)
Garage Trap: 8/10. This was one epic trap, sadly it was too short, they could have made a lot more of it.
Lawnmowertrap: 7/10. The thing is that we saw nothing, it's left to our imagination i kinda liked that, i still hope they expend it in the director's cut though
1. The Hanging Cage: 6/10. nice easy concept. Only Bobby alone and no random victim.
2. The Dentist Chair: 6/10. Nice trap, not outstanding but was nice.
3. The Wheel: 8/10. I am not sure why but it made me feel for the victim i was sitting here and it was one hell of a time because i really thought this time the victim could survive, in the end it was at least a nice death scene. Sadly i understood one scene first the wrong way. When the police arrived at the scene the hear Bobby scream and i thought this victim was still alive and not that they reacted to Bobby.
4. Pulling teeth: 5/10 Not really a trap, but kinda nice scene, although it was random
5. The Blindfolded: 4/10 I didnt like this trap really much.
6. Bobby's Final Test: 9/10 This trap was awesome. It is sad that Joyce died, but it is so ironic that he had to test himself in his own test and he was so kept in that thought that he didn't consider trying to get up another wayinstead of putting the hooks inside his muscles. And at the end he failed his test, which was kinda sad, because i would have liked to see a happy end for him and Joyce.
Reverse Bear Trap: 9/10 Yeah we all wanted to see him, it's kinda random they used it in VI and VII now, but still it was great, because now every apprentice was in that trap, although of course there is a difference, Jill was just executed and i think she was so afraid that she lost her survival instinct, too.

So where can we go from here?

MASSIVE SAW VII SPOILERS AHEAD

The Jill gets torn apart clip made me think of several things. They wouldn't show it if it's the last scene of the movie. Also Betsy had not that much time on set if im not mistaken. We thought Hoffman against Jill may be the general topic of the movie, but there we have Dr. G. Lawrence and Hoffman are no friends is what they said, so the story may begin with Hoffman getting his revenge on Jill in like the first 30 minutes of the movie and continue with Lawrence against him. It actually makes sense. also they said they had the idea to make two movies instead of this one. That means the general story could have been like Saw V and Saw VI. In V it's all about Strahm and Hoffman, VII would have been Jill against Hoffman but they made the story shorter and the original end with the death of Jill comes earlier and is no twist at all more a start for the actual story. Like that it doesnt need to be a dream sequence or anything it is just what happens. Remember when we thought Saw IV would be all about Jeff's new game? The Saw Crew surprised us with something epic and thats what happened again. I still hope Jigsaw will have a plan for Hoffman so he won't come to far though, cause yeah he has to die.

Soon :)

星期六二零一零年十月三十号，我去看《奪魂鋸3D》。我对这部电影很感兴趣！我很喜欢《恐懼鬥室》和它的继续。星期五我去伦敦坐巴士。我和朋友见面。我们星期六晚上一起去电影院。星期一我中午回家和星期二我去学校。

correction by Sebastian
星期六，二零一零年十月三十号，我【将】去看《奪魂鋸3D》。我对这部电影很感兴趣！我很喜欢《恐懼鬥室》和它的【续集】。星期五我坐巴士【去伦敦】。我【会】和朋友见面。我们星期六晚上一起去电影院。【我】星期一中午回家，【然后】星期二我去学校。

Saw Chronology-Cuts

Ok now i have two fan-edits for the chronologycut for Saw. One is complete with the first 6 movies and one is yet only the beginning till the end of Saw I. In this post i will compare the two Cuts in style and scenes they used. To compare the versions, I will only use the first 2 dvds from JB, since they also end with the last bathroom scene.

The Jigsaw Files: 1 DVD - 140 minutes
JB's Cut (first 2 parts): 2 DVDs - 150 minutes

Both movies have a DVD title screen and different scene selections.

The Intro
JB: JB's Cut starts with the lionsgate and twisted pictures titles followed by the producer notes and directors. First screen is from Saw I, then II, then III (so not every single screen, but one from each movie). After that we see all title screens and then the real movie starts. (01:48)
First Scenes: JB starts with flashes of Hoffman and his sister, Jill Tuck in the park, Hoffman at the crime scene of his sister, Rigg's backstory at the school followed by the death of Dylan. After that we see the scene of John meeting William at the party without interruption as it is in the TJF version. (05:51)

TJF: The movie starts with a 3 second long scene, where adam is kidnapped. Then we see producer notes, but not from the original movie, but from the Fan Edited website. those two scenes are also outside the movie in VLC, those 23 seconds i will not count in this notes for easier finding in the movie itself. After the notes we see a biblic quote (Matthew 16:25) to introduce the movie. then we see different producer notes, this time with fitting melody and a nice saw style to it. between the notes we see several scenes:
Bobby falling of the table, John sitting desperately in a chair, John lifting Bobby up, John meeting William on the party (with little flashs of John in his lair, mostly to fit the audio). After that scene we see the title screen "The Jigsaw Files"

After John met William
JB: John and Jill meet at house he bought with the clock, when John lifts up Bobby it flashes to William meeting Harold, who puts his complaint on the table. (07:58) Now it starts where TJF start now too: in the Clinic with Cecil getting aggressive. It follows the whole story with Jill losing Gideon. (12:38)
TJF: After Cecil got aggressive we get to see the clock scene in Jigsaw's lair, both chronological orders seem logical for me although they differ in the two versions. After Bobby is shown it continues with Jill's story, but it is shortened a bit. (ex. Cecil and Amanda in the car) The Cherish your Life scene becomes a flashback when John is in the hospital. (o7:08)

After Gideon died
Both Versions continue with Art Blank meeting up with John and Jill (14:21/08:50) and both versions follow with John in the hospital (changes in sound (see note) and style) and then meeting with William talking about his cancer followed by John driving his car off the cliff. (note: The JB version features John's voice like in the flashbacks for a better understanding and TJF version features music for a better athmosphere). Both version continue with Cecil being captured and tested. (24:39/18:50)
Now comes a major difference: TJF adds Rigg in the school, which was featured in JB right in the beginning. This scene might be worth a later discussion. (20:38)
After that scene it continues the same as JB's version again. Jill meets John in his lair and she finds the pictures of cecil and the glass coffin. After that we have the pendulum scene in both versions with everything connected to that scene (Hoffman investigating, getting captured by Jigsaw, Shotgunchair) No major differences. (42:26/36:56)

Hoffman is recruited
Both versions continue in the storyline with Paul being tested, Mark being tested and Amanda being tested. The major difference is that JB first showed every trap and then the police investigation and TJF show the traps still as flashbacks. TJF also show Amanda and Cecil driving in the car as a blurry flashback that Amanda has while she is getting high. JB stays in the chronological order and TJF orientates on the chronological order but makes differences to make it story fitting. Amanda meets Jigsaw and is recruited at (59:51/54:56)

Amanda is recruited
Tapp and Sing find the location and the scene with the drill chair and the shotgun chair happens. No major differences (1:10:08/1:04:52).
Now again a major difference: TJF feature the "rockstar scene", which is not featured in JB's cut since it's a deleted scene. It is followed by another major difference. JB shows Tapp in his lair and TJF shows Gordon saying good night to his daughter. Since Adam took pictures of Gordon leaving the house, i think its reasonable that Tapp was in the house in fact before Zep started kidnapping. JB also features the scene with Amanda and John ("every cell in your body") before Diana wakes up. (1:11:52/1:05:58)
The story follows in both versions with the kidnap scenes. the cell in your body scene is in TJF right before Adam gets kidnapped. After the kidnap scenes the bathroom scene from Saw III ends at (1:30:52 (end DVD I)/ 1:23:12)

The Bathroom
Now both versions continue with the bathroom. The first flashback when Gordon starts telling the story was cut out in both versions at (15:24/1:36:50).
The first major difference is when Adam finds the note and the picture of Diana and Alison. TJF show how Zep treats them right afterwards and shows Tapp looking at him out of the window. The storyline of the bathroom has no major differences afterwards and is similar to the original movie. In the end of the movie both versions leave the flashbacks in with the key in the bathtub and with the victim flashes. the Jigsaw files adds flashbacks from the other saw movies into the fast process that were seen before too. John closes the door at (54:35/2:17:33).

The End
TJF show right with the screaming the credits. A few kind words and producer notes as credits with the actors, writers etc. After a coming soon screen we see Amanda entering the bathroom killing Adam ending with a screen "The Jigsaw Files II"
JB's second DVD doesn't end at the door closing part. It features Amanda's dream and then her killing Adam and stops then without credits since they are featured at the very end of all dvds.

And What version shall I watch now?
Both versions are highly recommended for different reasons.

JB's version has every single scene in the movie at the right place with a great edited style. For fans a must since it shws the timeline perfectly. TJF are different. They are oriented on the timeline, but leave parts out to make it look like a movie and not just like a timeline. TJF may be more rewatchable, but not as accurate. And vice versa for JB's version. If i had to rate both version, both would get an A with 10 million stars, because it is just awesome. I really hope when Saw VII comes out that both versions will get an update to be completed.

So Saw VII

Yeah the last one in the franchise is going to come and after trailers and so much information i am positive that it will be a great way to end the series. Like Rotti Largo this series will go out in a bang. More deaths, more traps. They really should have gave it a similar length to Saw III though. And i hope in all this massacre when it's going down that it still stays true to the story and doesnt overrate its traps and has not much more to it. I still need to find the best way to get to London for the opening weekend so i can see it for premiere for the first time, since its the last one in the series.

i just leave this here

Saw VII Char-Info

Characters back:

Gordon - "meh", but in interview they said Gordon with foot, so maybe just flashbacks. and in present time just as a corpse. damn i start being afraid :(

Seth - awesome, i would love some flashbacks :)

Mallick - maybe just his corpse?

Not Back:

Brit (confirmed survive though) - its nice to see that we get the information what happened to her

Tara - too bad they won't show what happened after the Zoo-Massacre

Brent

Daniel - not needed to be back anyway

Rigg - same

Tapp - same

Amanda - I'm happy that she is not back :X

Pamela - It's kinda sad, cause all the three chars are still alive down there

Jeff Ridenhour - not needed

Other Information:
"Garage Trap" involving cars = The horsepower trap talked about

A lot of movement in the timeline :)

The Traps Come Alive My Ass...
The title is disgusting... to me.
Jesus Peter...

First pics from the Saw VII set

found on Kevin's Blog

the first pic shows the camera team in a room probably made for a series of tests.

the third pic may show a trap device on the lower right side of the screen and maybe the horsepower trap in the background.

the fourth pic has again this black thing on the right, which probably is from the company William F. White: William F. White International provides state-of-the-art lighting, grip, camera support, and related production equipment to the film, television and theatrical industries. Our challenge and our goal is to keep abreast of the ever changing and demanding requirements of the innovative professionals who use our services. As our mission statement states: "Our Business Is Relationships Founded On Integrity, Trust, Quality Of Service And Mutual Reward Through Team Commitment And Dedication".

it's hard to see whats on the camera screen on this pic

Saw VII is rated

Saw VII (SAW7)

Rated R
For sequences of grisly bloody violence and torture, and language. [Theaters 10/22/10]





/from MPAA

good thing that they call it Saw VII there

Neues Bild im Netz

I hope it's real...
A new pic Saw VII arrived from an auction platform:

"They weren't able to tell me one way or the other, but this being Hollywood, you can bet your ass if the seventh one makes money there'll be another Saw movie at some point in the near future."
- BD

This being said... i really lost all my hope, because if there is any possibility for a new movie, it makes the movie impossible to have a closed complete ending. Unless they film it and show it in the DC if the movie isn't that much of a success... But I'm really really disappointed.

This is old but i still post it

Saw VII

Tobin Bell Jigsaw/John
Cary Elwes Dr. Gordon
Costas Mandylor Hoffman
Betsy Russell Jill
Sean Patrick Flanery Bobby
Gina Holden Joyce
Chad Donella Gibson
Laurence Anthony Rogers
Dean Armstrong Cale
Naomi Snieckus Nina

This October, one of the biggest, most successful horror franchises in movie history arrives in theaters in vivid, chilling 3-D with the release of Lionsgate’s SAW VII 3-D.

As a deadly battle rages over Jigsaw’s brutal legacy, a group of Jigsaw survivors gathers to seek the support of self-help guru and fellow survivor Bobby Dagen, a man whose own dark secrets unleash a new wave of terror...

The first theatrical feature to be shot exclusively on the cutting-edge SI-3D digital camera system, SAW VII 3-D brings the horrifying games of Jigsaw to life like never before. The film stars Tobin Bell, Cary Elwes, Costas Mandylor, Betsy Russell and Sean Patrick Flannery. SAW VII is directed by Kevin Greutert, produced by Oren Koules, Mark Burg and Gregg Hoffman. SAW VII 3D is a Lionsgate Release. Twisted Pictures Presents a Burg/Koules/Hoffman Production.

New Cast Update

Chad Donella has joined the cast of SAW 3D (now filming in Toronto, Canada). If you are a fan of the franchise, you will be intrigued by this very talented actor. You certainly won't forget Chad in SAW 3D.

- John Raybin

New Cast Update, but they still call it Saw 3D... LAME.

Second Month

I love you more than i hate the distance between us

Two Months;

And only One Month waiting to see you again. The flight is booked and the trips are being planned. In exactly 4 weeks you will be exiting your plane and hug your boyfriend while leaving the terminal behind. Those 3 months we weren't able to feel and touch each other are long and now we have finished only two-thirds of that long time. But when the time finally has come, it shall be that intense that we don't look back on the waiting and only think that it was worth it.

Last month i wrote about the moments we had and now i will write about the times we will have in one month. Next month we will not only see each other finally again, but in the same few days you have birthday and we are together for three months. I thought about a few things, but havn't really thought everything out, yet and need to plan what exactly i'm about to do with you that day. We will finally go and eat at the Comix. We wanted to go there in december already, but we went there the day it was closed and didn't manage to there there on another day. We also planned to watch a lot of movies like Battle Royale, the detroit metal city movie, repo, wall-e, memento and stuff like that. We may sacrifice one evening for most of the movies while ordering something to eat and lying lazy on the couch or in bed =P

I think we also want to play minigolf, either i just came up with it or we mentioned it on one day as a sidenote. At least i think it may be a cool idea, same for letting you ride a horse, citygirl :D oh and i gotta show you the highland cows or as you would call em *big-mops*
I hope we will have good relative warm weather with nearly zero raining days, so it will be most awesome when we visit different places.

In the second week there will be the biggest event of it all. Our second Amsterdam-Trip! We will go to the Amsterdam Dungeon for sure this time and yes i will hold your hand and we will go to the Live-Porno-Show just for fun =D. Oh yeah and the sex museum of course. I hope we can park outside the city this time though, cause i don't want to pay 50€ for a parking lot again. We may get to eat at the Hadrock Cafe this time or we go to the Sports Cafe again, cause i thought this restaurant was kinda awesome. At night we will sleep in the hostel we found i think its the best deal we can do. i just need to ask around how many friends will stay with us in one room and are willing to share the money then.

We also will go to Belgium, although Merel isn't sure if she really makes a saw-night because there is other stuff going around, but we are still invited to a birthday party there. And we may persuade Merel to still make the saw-night haha.

After two most awesome weeks my school begins and we will have a calmer week i think. On some days when i have cool lessons you may come with me to school and for sports you can join anyways, because its only playing batminton or doing something else there.

After that week we have one last weekend and will have to think about what thing to do as a great ending and then it's time to say goodbye again. But not forever, just until summer. I love you babe and i hope you thought a lot about me on our anniversary :-*

And we've learned that, every day, life should be cherished. Justice is the backbone to every peaceful society. And I believe that true justice has been served.

- Mark Hoffman

Saw VII started filming. But still it is called 3D in the name. I hope it won't have this name when it comes out

I am so pissed

This Shit is just fail. How can Lionsgate fuck everything up like that. I'm so angry and ranting everywhere on this thing. I actually liked Hackl in V and that they fire him because of stress with another company is just bullshit and stupid in my eyes. I don't see how they can make stupid dicissions at least for the fans. If they care about the series they shouldn't send someone 2 weeks before shooting in, how is he going to read the script and how is he going to like what he does at all? This is a worse step than not advertising VI.